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Silver linings:
(1) Jean-Charles de Menezes no longer poses a threat to British security.
(2) He now has his own Wikipedia entry.
Unsettling and criminally negligent events like this demand stern, illiberal responses, such as this from the BBC's Have Your Say page:
I bet these so-called “liberals” who object so much to the shooting wouldn’t complain if it was a terrorist who got shot when he was about to blow himself up, or even if someone else got shot by accident on the scene as long as the terrorist was killed at the end of it. Once again it’s one rule for them and another for terrorists and innocent bystanders.A moment's scrutiny will reveal that this “rule” makes no sense. “Don't shoot me, but do shoot innocent bystanders” is not something any “so-called liberal” has ever said. This has not deterred one reader (so far) from unreservedly recommending the comment. I have also awarded myself bonus points for the use of the phrase “Once again it's one rule for them...”. I invite those with a modicum of free time to join me in this weird, fetid pit that passes for a representative snapshot of public opinion and see if we can't make Joe Omnibus out to be even stupider than he already is.
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Date: 2006-03-08 07:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-08 07:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-08 07:56 pm (UTC)Once again it's one rule for people who can spell, etc.
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Date: 2006-03-08 08:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-08 09:09 pm (UTC)That wasn't meant to be some kind of big reveal, by the way, it's just that (and it's only just struck me) unless you know me, you won't know that A Cheffie is a name I commonly go by on the net, although it bears no resemblance to my actual name.
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Date: 2006-03-08 09:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-08 09:58 pm (UTC)Perhaps even the Daily Mail is actually just a long-running, hilarious injoke by liberal media types that no-one knows how to stop?
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Date: 2006-03-08 09:21 pm (UTC)A Cheffie suggests "I bet these so-called “liberals” who object so much to the shooting wouldn’t complain if it was a terrorist who got shot".
I'd like to ask these so-called 'conservatives' if they wouldnt complain if it was their child who was shot in similar circumstances?
MC, London
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Date: 2006-03-08 09:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-08 09:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-08 08:42 pm (UTC)I think the police had no choice to act as they did. How are we to know that suicide bombers *haven't* started to disguise themselves by speaking Portugese, and not carrying any explosives?
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Date: 2006-03-08 09:36 pm (UTC)Yes, the police should continue shoot to kill. Furthermore, mind reading machines should be provided so that the police can shoot to kill people before they commit a crime. Under this system there is no other way left other than killing. Good education gone. Fair reward to work done gone. Future black. People are being killed in thousands by phantom terrorists, triggered earthquakes etc. This illegitimate system can only have illegitimate means. Please carry on killing...
lifebrainwatch, Çanakkale/Turkey
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Date: 2006-03-08 10:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-08 11:58 pm (UTC)Fair play to you for showing up the ever so tiny flaw in the BBC presenting them as in some way a valid part of news coverage (i.e. they are so full of rubbish that someone can make some rubbish to order and it still gets posted.)
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Date: 2006-03-09 12:54 am (UTC)But so far it's all been on the pro shooting side. How about something like:
"So what if de Menezies was a suicide bomber? He hadn't actually killed anyone, so who gives the police the right to be judge, jury and executioner? Innocent until proven guilty - but not in Tessa's Jowell's Britain."
or:
"Any would-be suicide bombers on that train watching de Mennenzays being killed would hardly have been deterred, would they? Once again, why doesn't Blair come clean?"
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Date: 2006-03-09 02:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-09 11:21 am (UTC)Dr Miles from London adds:
Date: 2006-03-09 10:24 am (UTC)Re: Dr Miles from London adds:
Date: 2006-03-09 01:31 pm (UTC)...and if it was YOUR SON and he WAS a suicide bomber and killed 100's of people, what would you say then?
what people don't understand is to stop a suicide bomber you have to stop him using his thumb or equivalent. someone explain how to without shooting him?
Avi, Stockport"
Hmm. Thanks, Avi. Thumbs, eh?
How come this crap got on there and mine didn't? Call this a democracy?