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webofevil ([personal profile] webofevil) wrote2005-10-27 09:13 am
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Great Moments in Parliament #401, #425, #604 and #392

The Parliamentary Journal shows that MPs in the past weren't scared of a little discourtesy:
14 March 1651

The question being propounded, That thanks be given to the ministers that preached yesterday before the Parliament;

And the question being put, That that question be now put;

It passed with the negative.

At this point in his diary the MP John Milward tantalisingly withholds almost every pertinent detail:
24 September 1666

Mr Prynne brought in his Bill, which was generally disliked and said to be full of dirty language.

There’s a convention that MPs aren’t allowed to accuse each other of being drunk. However, sometimes it just can’t pass unmentioned:
[From a historical account]: The member for Sussex, Mr Fuller, entered the House in a state of inebriety, and too audibly mistook the Speaker for an owl in an ivy-bush*. He was at once named, and handed over to the Serjeant. The next day the Speaker administered a severe but dignified rebuke.

* “He looks like an owl in an ivy bush”; frequently said of a person with a large frizzled wig, or a woman whose hair is dressed a-la-blowze. (1811 edition of Francis Grose’s Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue)


[From the Parliamentary Debates]: The House being informed that a member of the Committee had misbehaved himself during the sitting of the Committee, making use of profane oaths and disturbing their proceedings—John Fuller Esq., member for Sussex.

Mr Speaker thereupon called Mr Fuller by name: upon which MrFuller was directed to withdraw—and he withdrew accordingly...

After some time the said Mr Fuller returning into the House in a very violent and disorderly manner: Mr Speaker resumed the Chair and ordered the Serjeant to do his duty.

Mr Fuller was accordingly taken out by the Serjeant, assisted by his messengers.
It's not recorded whether he was then flung onto the pavement through a pair of swing doors with the words "... and stay out!".


My favourite moment of historical record, though, remains this Journal entry, in its entirety:
14 May 1605

A strange spaniel, of mouse-colour, came into the House.

(lifted from Before Hansard, Horace King, 1968)

[identity profile] ex-cornfedpi814.livejournal.com 2005-10-27 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
"A strange spaniel, of mouse-colour, came into the House."

So the speaker, right, he says "I may look like an ivy bush, but can someone stop this spaniel from pissing on my leg!".

It was all they had.

[identity profile] strictlytrue.livejournal.com 2005-10-27 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
If you haven't already seen it, you'll have hours of fun with this. Click on the "Jounals of the House of Commons" link.

[identity profile] chiller.livejournal.com 2005-10-27 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
Hahahaha: "... and stay out!"

Classic, there.

[identity profile] strictlytrue.livejournal.com 2005-10-27 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
For added comic effect, imagine a solitary boot protruding from between the doors, and the gentleman in question being propelled through the air, to land, with stars and wiggly lines emerging from the point at which he hits the ground.