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webofevil ([personal profile] webofevil) wrote2005-08-17 06:34 pm
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This Brazilian walks on to a train

Right. So it turns out that police weren't able to corroborate the surveillance officer's hunch that Jean Charles de Menezes (fig. 1) was Shepherd's Bush terrorette Hussain Osman (fig. 2), because he was having a piss when de Menezes appeared and therefore couldn't video him to check his identity.



Fig. 1 - Jean Charles de Menezes
Fig. 2 - Hussain Osman
Fig. 3 - Stan Collymore, [livejournal.com profile] cornfedpig's mistaken-identity victim of choice


* Police instructions were to stop de Menezes getting to the Underground station at all costs. This, you cannot fail to have noticed, was not done.

* Instead of the suspiciously bulky "winter jacket" he was said to have had, he was in fact wearing a thin denim jacket.

* Rather than vaulting the ticket barrier at Stockwell tube, as police claimed, he picked up a copy of Metro and walked normally through the barrier; walked, in fact, on to the platform and on to the train. He did this because the police tailing him issued no warnings.

* Once on the train, he was pinioned to his seat by an officer who restrained both his arms. It was in this position that he was shot seven times in the head. Apart from any other questions this raises, it makes a mockery of the idea that his upper body was a no-go area for fear of setting off any impact-detonated explosives.

* Curiously, all the CCTV cameras in the station that could have caught any of this on film "were not working" on the day, so "no film exists" (although we now know the one on the train was working).

* The Met Commissioner, Sir Ian Blair, spent the hours following the shooting trying desperately to persuade the Home Office and No. 10 to let the Met investigate the incident themselves, rather than allow it to be handled by an independent body. To his credit, Charles Clarke declined Sir Ian's selfless offer.


Under the circumstances, I think we are permitted to raise a quizzical eyebrow.



De Menezes' family are demanding a public inquiry into the circumstances surrounding his death. The very fact that they have to ask is testament to our ruling elite's notion of justice, and indeed to the ever-bruited British "sense of fair play". For all the noise currently being made about this risible snafu (Carry On The Day Of The Jackal?), it's entirely conceivable that there won't be an inquiry at all.

The fact that the Brazilian police have no qualms about gunning down anyone who gets in their way has been raised in some quarters as some kind of debating point here. I suggest that we shouldn't have to resort to comparing our police force to sinister Latin American paramilitaries before we can start to identify its positive aspects, otherwise we're in more trouble than we thought.

[identity profile] ex-cornfedpi814.livejournal.com 2005-08-17 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
If they'd shot Stan Collymore instead then I could understand it.

[identity profile] strictlytrue.livejournal.com 2005-08-17 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
A quizzical eyebrow indeed, but it's not all quite as ridiculous as it seems. I think the real guilty party in all this is the guy taking a piss who didn't identify de Menezes properly - pound to a penny says he came back, saw the back of de Menezes' head as he walked away, panicked, and thought it safer to presume that he was one of the suspects than presume he wasn't.

Even at this point, however, de Menezes might have lived if it weren't for the second spectacular piece of crapness. The guy watching the flats radioed his bosses, who put a surveillance team on to de Menezes, who were unarmed. They followed him to the tube station - but were unable (weren't permitted?) to stop him entering themselves, so they radioed for armed support. This support arrived, but only after de Menezes had gone into the tube station.

So an armed team of anti-terrorist police have been told that a suicide bomber has gone into the tube - the rest is something of a foregone conclusion. Here's the odd bit though. From what I've read, the bloke holding de Menezes down was one of the surveillance officers - who seemed rather surprised when the suspect he had firm hold of was shot in the head.

Is it possible that two sets of orders were being followed? That the surveillance officers had simply been told to follow de Menezes and apprehend him if he was thought to be acting suspiciously, while the armed team (were they CO19 officers? I forget the lingo) had been directed to shoot de Menezes as he definitely was a suicide bomber? Either way, I still can't help feeling that it's the fault of the bloke not doing his job properly outside de Menezes flat whose largely to blame, closely followed by whoever took the decision to instruct the armed officers to shoot the suspect without any attempt whatsoever to establish whether he might actually be a suicide bomber (I appreciate that if they're not sure they couldn't stop and search someone but they could at least look at them and see they weren't carrying anything on them, or wearing anything big enough to conceal a device.)

Incidentally, I can't help being amused by the reports that a "cover-up" has gone on in relation to this business. It's not a very good cover-up, is it?

[identity profile] strictlytrue.livejournal.com 2005-08-17 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I still can't help feeling that it's the fault of the bloke not doing his job properly outside de Menezes flat whose largely to blame

should read

"I still can't help feeling that it's the fault of the bloke not doing his job properly outside de Menezes' flat."

or

"I still can't help feeling that it's the bloke not doing his job properly outside de Menezes' flat who's largely to blame."

You can take the boy out of Hansard...

[identity profile] strictlytrue.livejournal.com 2005-08-17 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, one more thing. The Observer suggested that the CCTV cameras weren't working - but this seems to be bollocks. I have read in more than one report today that CCTV footage shows de Menezes progress from the entrance of the station down to the platform. There are also some rather unpleasant pictures, apparently taken from CCTV, of de Menezes' body immediately after the shooting.

[identity profile] nudejournal.livejournal.com 2005-08-17 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Picking up a copy of the Metro is pretty suspect behaviour in my book.